1. Apple’s hardware can outlast the software that ships with it
Many users point out that a 10‑plus‑year‑old MacBook, iBook or iPad still runs, but the OS and its services become unusable once Apple stops pushing updates.
“Apple is the opposite of planned obsolescence.” – mason_mpls
“The whole 19‑floppy images of MacOS 7.5.3 … Apple stopped showing browsable index files many years ago.” – kalleboo
2. The “Liquid Glass” redesign is a hit‑or‑miss for accessibility and usability
The new glass‑like UI, transparency, monochrome icons and floating controls have been criticized for making text unreadable, slowing animation and confusing users.
“It’s a giant ‘fuck you’ to accessibility in general.” – pdpi
“The UI was so good back then compared to the liquid glass introduced recently.” – gattilorenz
3. Legacy Macs struggle with modern networking and security infrastructure
Older Macs cannot connect to WPA2/WPA3 routers, fail to validate certificates, and cannot download updates because Apple’s servers use HTTP and outdated TLS.
“Apple’s EFI embeds an older version of wpa supplicant … it is 15‑year‑old.” – jamesy0ung
“The keychain system is so hidden… I had to manually download OS updates.” – JadeNB
4. Nostalgia for older UI/UX versus the current trend toward minimalism
Users lament the loss of the classic Aqua look, the “flat” design, and the perceived over‑design of modern interfaces, while others defend the new aesthetic as a natural evolution.
“The UI looks so good. Why can’t we have good looking things anymore?” – felixding
“The early flatness craze, Yosemite, still looked better than the current Liquid Glass appearance.” – kccqzy
These four themes capture the main threads of opinion in the discussion: hardware longevity, UI/UX changes, networking/security gaps, and the nostalgia‑vs‑modern‑design debate.