1. Illegality Under Copyright and ToS
Many view scraping as illegal copyright infringement or ToS violation, though enforceability is debated. "Not legal" - phainopepla2. Lawyer DannyBee notes: "You can't be bound to a contract you never view or intentionally assent to." "ToS is not law except in the most draconian... interpretations of the CFAA" - sneak.
2. Spotify Hypocrisy and Poor Artist Pay
Critics highlight Spotify's pirated origins and low payouts, favoring direct support or archiving. "There's some irony here considering Spotify used pirated mp3s at the start" - nemomarx. "Spotify gives cents to artists, incentivizing awful behaviour (AI music...)" - jopicornell. "You're talking about Spotify, right? Famously started by ad execs pirating music" - venturecruelty.
3. Value for Preservation and AI Training
Praised as archival godsend for open models and research, despite access hurdles. "Anna is a godsend. Hopefully now we get some really good open source music models" - artninja1988. "This does seem like it will be a godsend for researchers working on things like music classification and generation" - crazygringo. Ideological drive: "Copyright is just a shared delusion" - toomuchtodo.