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Cloudflare CEO on the Italy fines

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Hacker News Discussion

📝 Discussion Summary (Click to expand)

1. Hypocrisy of Cloudflare CEO Praising Musk/Vance

Criticism of CEO's pandering to unpopular right-wing figures for political leverage. "Pretending to take a principled stand against censorship but then randomly throwing flowers to two of the biggest threats to freedom of expression is deeply hypocritical" - thrance. "Not a good look on that guy to list his 'pro-bono' services and threaten to pull them while asking JD Vance for his help" - bflesch.

2. Cloudflare's Past Selective Blocking

Accusations of irony given Cloudflare's history of deplatforming (e.g., Daily Stormer, Kiwifarms). "Cloudflare have deliberately designed their network so that every IP can serve up every cloudflare website... I suspect this is a deliberate business decision" - blibble. "So blocking Kiwifarms took.. months of activism... However a fine that amounts to ~0.7% of the annual revenue and they threaten to block an entire country?" - Foxboron.

3. Italian Law as Extraterritorial Overreach

Demand for global DNS blocks seen as unreasonable censorship beyond Italy's jurisdiction. "Italy insists a shadowy, European media cabal should be able to dictate what is and is not allowed online" - iamnothere (quoting CEO). "So you think it's fine that if some Italian agency orders Cloudflare to block some domain on it's 1.1.1.1 public DNS... it should be blocked for everyone on Earth" - cubefox.

4. Disproportionate Fine and Escalation

€17M fine exceeds Italy revenue by 213%, justifying threats to exit. "The are fining his company 213% of yearly Italian revenue. He is not the one escalating" - jules. "We can’t offer free services in a country that fines us millions unreasonably. Fix your government or lose access to our charity" - grayhatter (quoting CEO).

5. Threats to Withdraw Services from Italy

Concerns over punishing Italian users/Olympics for regulator's actions. "discontinuing Cloudflare’s Free cyber security services for any Italy-based users... That's punishing all of Italy's users including those whose job it is to call truth to power" - troyvit. "The act of threatening unrelated customers just because they are in the same country is extremely stupid" - bflesch.

6. Context: Anti-Piracy for Football Streams

Fine targets "Piracy Shield" bypassing for Serie A streams, not general censorship. "this fight isn't about Anna's Archive, it is about people watching soccer illegally. Because that is where the real money is" - fph. "The driving force behind this is getting pirated streams of football matches knocked offline" - IncreasePosts.

7. Broader EU vs. US Free Speech Tensions

Debate on EU regs as censorship threat amid US-EU digital sovereignty clash. "I appreciate @JDVance taking a leadership role... And in this case @ElonMusk is right: #FreeSpeech is critical and under attack" - iamnothere (quoting CEO). "The good players are the US on this front. I say this as a European. Europe at large is in a dark place in terms of freedom of speech" - simianparrot.

🚀 Project Ideas

Geo-Sovereign DNS Resolver

Summary

  • A white-label or open-source DNS resolver kit designed for ISPs and CDNs to handle regional compliance without global "leakage."
  • Solves the problem where a local court order (like Italy's AGCOM) forces an infrastructure provider to choose between global censorship or massive fines.
  • Core Value: Provides "Jurisdictional Logic" at the DNS level, ensuring blocks are only applied to IPs originating from the requesting country.

Details

Key Value
Target Audience Tier 2/3 ISPs, regional CDNs, and privacy-focused DNS providers
Core Feature Advanced Geo-IP routing for DNS records with automated API for legal "takedown" inputs
Tech Stack Rust/Go, eBPF for high-speed packet filtering, MaxMind/IP2Location
Difficulty High
Monetization Revenue-ready: B2B Licensing (SaaS) or Support/Maintenance for Open Source

Notes

  • HN commenters noted: "The Italian authority argues that they have the skills to do a local block and are just being uncooperative."
  • This project addresses the frustration that current mass-market DNS (1.1.1.1) is too blunt an instrument for nuanced regional law.

Site-Shield Proof: The "Anti-Cabal" Monitor

Summary

  • A transparency and observability tool that tracks and publicizes DNS/IP blocking orders across the EU in real-time.
  • Solves the "shadowy cabal" problem mentioned by the Cloudflare CEO by providing a public audit trail of what is being blocked, by whom, and for what reason.
  • Core Value: Accountability for pseudo-judicial bodies like AGCOM and CUII.

Details

Key Value
Target Audience Journalists, digital rights activists (EFF, CCC), and site owners
Core Feature Global distributed crawlers checking for DNS "sinkholes" and IP unreachability
Tech Stack Python (Scrapy), distributed nodes (Raspberry Pis/VPS), Svelte kit frontend
Difficulty Medium
Monetization Hobby (Donation-based) or Freemium API for researchers

Notes

  • "No judicial oversight. No due process. No appeal. No transparency" was a core frustration.
  • Bringing "sunlight" to these blocks would be highly discussed on HN.

SovereignCDN

Summary

  • A CDN consortium/federation of European-based infrastructure providers (like Bunny.net, Hetzner, OVH).
  • Solves the over-reliance on US-based providers (Cloudflare/Akamai) who may pull out or engage in political "vice signaling" or "blackmail."
  • Core Value: Digital sovereignty and immunity to US-admin "favors" while complying with local EU laws.

Details

Key Value
Target Audience EU Governments, NGOs, and European businesses worried about US instability
Core Feature Unified edge network across purely European-owned hardware
Tech Stack Anycast routing, Nginx/OpenResty, Multi-cloud orchestration
Difficulty High
Monetization Revenue-ready: Usage-based (bandwidth/requests)

Notes

  • "Cloudflare as a political tool of leverage is a level of dystopia we really should try not to unlock."
  • Commenters explicitly suggested switching to Bunny.net to avoid "American greed-based CEOs."

Verified Anon: Proof-of-Personhood Proxy

Summary

  • A middleware service that verifies a user is a real human (and potentially their country of origin) without revealing their identity.
  • Solves the "foreign influence" and "bot farm" debate by ensuring comments/votes come from real citizens.
  • Core Value: Authenticity in the "marketplace of ideas" without the "chilling effect" of RealID.

Details

Key Value
Target Audience Social media platforms, Reddit alternatives, and political forums
Core Feature Zero-Knowledge Proofs (ZKP) for identity verification
Tech Stack Ethereum/Polygon ID (ZAP), Homomorphic Encryption, OAuth
Difficulty Medium
Monetization Revenue-ready: Per-verification fee for platforms

Notes

  • Directly addresses the debate between lossolo and j-krieger: "What I mean is we need to recognize that a citizen expressing a view and a state apparatus manufacturing thousands of fake citizens... are fundamentally different."

RetroArcade VR Cloud

Summary

  • A legally compliant, cloud-streamed retro arcade platform.
  • Solves the "frozen in time" arcade problem in countries like Italy and Greece where local laws make physical arcade cabinets legally impossible to update or maintain.
  • Core Value: Preservation of arcade culture via high-fidelity VR/Web streaming that bypasses "gambling machine" hardware laws.

Details

Key Value
Target Audience Retro gaming enthusiasts in Italy/Greece, VR users
Core Feature Low-latency ROM streaming with virtual "social" arcade environments
Tech Stack WebRTC, EmuScripten (MAME), Unreal Engine/Unity for VR
Difficulty High
Monetization Revenue-ready: Monthly Subscription / "Digital Quarters"

Notes

  • Inspired by the specific frustration regarding the "22-year-old war on arcade games" in Italy and the legacy of Law 3037/2002 in Greece.

PirateShield Canary

Summary

  • An automated "Canary" service for SaaS providers (Google Drive, CDNs, GitHub) to detect when their IPs have been caught in national "Piracy Shield" false positives.
  • Solves the problem of "collateral damage" where legitimate business infrastructure is blocked because a pirate stream shared an IP.
  • Core Value: Faster response time for enterprise legal teams to appeal "accidental" blocks.

Details

Key Value
Target Audience DevSecOps teams at major tech companies and hosting providers
Core Feature Real-time connectivity monitoring from within regional ISP networks (Italy, Spain)
Tech Stack Golang, Prometheus/Grafana, global probe network
Difficulty Low
Monetization Revenue-ready: Enterprise B2S (SaaS)

Notes

  • Refers to the "idiotic" implementation in Italy and Spain where "they blocked some lawful services too such as Google Drive."

De-Centralized Olympics (DCO)

Summary

  • A disaster-recovery and DDoS-mitigation framework for high-profile public events that eliminates "single point of failure" vendors.
  • Solves the leverage Cloudflare has when they threaten to pull protection from the Olympics.
  • Core Value: Infrastructure resilience through vendor-agnostic distributed defense.

Details

Key Value
Target Audience Event organizers (IOC, FIFA), Government infrastructure agencies
Core Feature Automated failover between multiple CDNs and on-prem scrubbing centers
Tech Stack Terraform, Anycast, BGP Flowspec, Multi-CDN Steering
Difficulty Medium
Monetization Revenue-ready: Consulting and "Resilience-as-a-Service" licenses

Notes

  • Responds to the "NUCLEAR threat" regarding the 2026 Winter Olympics.
  • "The Italian government can't risk the Olympics infrastructure getting DDoS'd into oblivion because AGCOM picked a fight they can't win."

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