1. RCS – a useful but controversial upgrade
Many commenters note that RCS solves real‑world problems (especially group chat compatibility in the US) but worry it gives carriers and big tech too much control and lacks true end‑to‑end encryption.
- “It makes group messaging work a lot better, too… you can make a functional group chat across platforms and you don’t have to convince anybody to install something new.” – annzabelle
- “After getting several family group chats finally converted over to RCS, one day my phone just started absolutely refusing to verify my connection to the RCS servers… I’ll never turn RCS on again, I can't trust that it won't just start silently failing.” – Dusseldorf
- “What is the point of RCS though? It seems to be strictly inferior to Signal… I fail to see any value in it.” – exceptione
- “Yes RCS is a pig with lipstick… It was always meant to be a walled garden. Exactly what an open system shouldn't be.” – wolvoleo
2. GrapheneOS’s openness vs. inclusion of non‑OSS apps
The project’s permissive‑licensing philosophy clashes with proposals to bundle apps whose licenses are not truly open source (e.g., FUTO keyboard, Refra Gallery).
- “Their license is invalid due to being GPLv3. GPLv3 cannot be included in GrapheneOS as that would necessitate GrapheneOS give up their permissive licensing.” – HybridStatAnim8
- “You may modify the software only for non‑commercial purposes… It is a ‘source available’ license, not Open Source.” – mrob (on FUTO keyboard)
- “Right, they are adhering to a definition of open that includes free as in liberty, so licensing matters. What good is it to read the source if I don’t have rights to modify and redistribute?” – jazzyjackson
- “It is not open source. They use a custom source available license. There's no way any Android distribution would include it.” – idle_zealot
3. Deep distrust of carriers and big‑tech motives
A recurring sentiment is that RCS is viewed as a tactic for carriers (or Google/Apple) to re‑assert control over messaging, echoing past SMS‑era pricing abuses and privacy concerns.
- “I don't really get why so many Americans want RCS to succeed… Why on earth would you want to give any power at all back to those [carrier] people?” – IshKebab
- “I don't ever want to give my provider the chance to do that again. And I don't trust Google either.” – wolvoleo
- “Anything first party from Big Tech is a lost cause privacy wise.” – exceptione
- “The carriers being involved in any capacity deeper than providing dumb pipes alone was enough to make [RCS] pointless, but no E2E in the base spec makes it extra pointless.” – cosmic_cheese