Three prevalent themes in the discussion
- Simple, low‑tech solutions can be surprisingly effective
- “This guy's lab does some really cool stuff using really basic ideas” – olwmc
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“Thanks! I'm putting 'doing cool stuff with really basic ideas' in my bio… :)” – wgrover
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AI shows promise for detecting counterfeits but faces scalability and adversarial challenges
- “Even if these techniques did not produce false positives … I suspect that they would not scale well. If counterfeiters realized they were losing a lot of sales … they will just use AI to catch the errors themselves.” – fwipsy
- “Regarding scaling … I'm hopeful that future AI models … might be able to identify more subtle variations …” – wgrover
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“This is genius – I’ve had good look using AI to identify fakes … It’s surprisingly good, and works fast enough to be usable in a fast paced live auction environment.” – trollbridge
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Counterfeiters often avoid exact copies due to practical constraints (OCR, source images, cost) and may adapt using AI
- “It's baffling that the counterfeiters don't use the exact same design for the box. At least using the same text. Almost seems harder to make text thats sort of close but not just a straight copy.” – qgin
- “Because they don’t have the source images. If they just used scans, the text would be fuzzy when reprinted. So they are converting it back to text in editing so it can print perfectly. Aside from some mistakes in the OCR.” – Gigachad
- “Any competent graphic designer can do this. I think it’s a lack of effort because… they don’t need to spend the extra $100.” – trollbridge