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Jeff – Jev-compatible 0.8B decision models, trained at home, ~30 ms

📝 Discussion Summary (Click to expand)

Three prevalent themes

  1. Speed, low latency, and local deployment – Many commenters praised how the tiny Jeff models give sub‑30 ms decisions on consumer hardware, making them attractive for real‑time apps.
  2. firelex: “the 0.8B decides in about 28 ms on an M4 Max… Jeff gets ‘the nearest monster is a little to your left’ and decides in about 29 ms on my Mac.”
  3. danbrooks: “having models that run locally and can be fine‑tuned is extremely helpful.”
  4. wgd: “The evaluation is fast because it’s all pre‑fill computation with only a single token of inference.”

  5. Zero‑shot generalists vs. task‑specific fine‑tuning or embedding classifiers – A frequent debate centered on whether Jeff’s out‑of‑the‑box zero‑shot performance is sufficient or if a small tuned classifier (e.g., embeddings + logistic regression) would be better.

  6. nico: “Using embeddings + logistic classifier, the architecture matches or beats Jev and Laya in all basic classification tasks.”
  7. AgentMasterRace: “I compared it to Jev in my current use cases and it’s very inaccurate – 70% vs 94% … for classification, it’s unacceptable.”
  8. tbeseda: “Did you try that? … The OP … mentions you can fine‑tune it for your use case.”

  9. Practical utility and limits (real‑time control, wording sensitivity, reasoning ability) – Users highlighted concrete use cases (voice navigation, game playing) while noting that these models excel at fast classification but struggle with multi‑step reasoning and are sensitive to prompt wording.

  10. firelex: “In one of my apps I use the 0.8B for voice navigation; a quick fine‑tune … took it from 32% to 96% on held‑out commands, at about 40 ms per decision.”
  11. firelex: “A small model is a classifier, not a planner. … present the options the right way and you get 40+ decisions per second.”
  12. firelex: “Wording matters enormously. Giving Frogger’s final step the same words as every other forward option … took one episode from 15 crossings to 23.”

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