1. Ethics teams are largely symbolic
“can be the backstop. The word “can” is doing some extremely heavy lifting here, against corporate practices which dilute and spread guilt and responsibility for immoral decisions so thin, nobody in the decision chain even realizes something immoral has been decided.” — pferde
2. Companies are fundamentally profit‑driven and effectively amoral
“There is actually no sharp difference between a person and a one‑person‑company, but: to the degree a company is really a company and not just a person, it is amoral.” — danlitt
3. Ethical metrics in AI are vulnerable to Goodhart’s‑law gaming
“Goodhart's Law isn't about teaching to the test. It's about the fact the measure will always end up gamed and not measuring what you originally intended it to measure.” — jerf
4. Moral behavior can exist outside profit maximisation – small‑scale examples
“In my village there are hundreds of businesses with strong morals… The owners don't do this because of money, but because in their view a fulfilled life is one where you serve your community.” — kaon_2
5. Proposals to embed ethics as a hard constraint in AI evaluation
“Every trajectory can be evaluated on whether or not it has a high enough EAOS to be considered acceptable.” — summarybot