1️⃣ Swift’s cross‑platform push is still nascent and met with skepticism - ttflee: “Swift 6.3 includes the first official release of the Swift SDK for Android.”
- wiseowise: “Never. It won’t even reach Compose level, Flutter level DX is unattainable for any framework outside Flutter.”
- frizlab: “I don’t believe that’s true. Things are moving constantly, and in the right direction.”
2️⃣ Language complexity & keyword bloat concern developers
- frizlab: “I would remove result builders and all other uses of @attributes that change the semantics of the code (e.g. property wrappers).”
3️⃣ Compilation speed & tooling pain points are frequently highlighted
- roflcopter69: “I tried Swift a few months ago … shocked by the compilation times. It’s pure pain.”
- drzaiusx11: “No mention of compilation speed improvements? Very unfortunate. Compilation times slower than Rust really hampers the devx of this otherwise decent language.”
4️⃣ Perceived stewardship & future of the language
- chrismarshallny: “The language doesn’t really matter. The underlying SDK/framework is where the action is at.”
- wiseowise: “JetBrains has monetary interest in promoting Kotlin beyond Android, there’s zero incentive to promote Swift as the language outside of iOS and Mac.”
- frizlab: “I don’t believe that’s true. Things are moving constantly, and in the right direction.”
These four themes capture the dominant talking points in the discussion.