1. Tesla’s safety record is opaque and questionable
Many commenters point out that Tesla redacts crash narratives, making it hard to judge fault or severity.
“Tesla redacts everything. We cannot independently assess whether Tesla’s system was at fault…” – giyanani
“The new crashes include … a collision with a bus while the Tesla was stationary” – anonym29
2. Tesla is often compared unfavorably to human drivers and Waymo
The discussion repeatedly asks whether Tesla’s robotaxi is worse than an average driver or Waymo’s fleet.
“The data is inconclusive on whether Tesla robotaxi is worse than the average driver.” – bryanlarsen
“Waymo reports 51 incidents in Austin alone … but its fleet has driven orders of magnitude more miles” – flutas
3. Technical shortcomings of Tesla’s camera‑only system
Critics argue that relying solely on cameras leaves Tesla vulnerable to low‑speed crashes and sensor blind spots.
“Any engineering student can understand why LIDAR+Radar+RGB is better than just a single camera.” – moralestapia
“The only way that Tesla could have avoided those crashes would be with parking sensors that come equipped as standard on almost every other car.” – SilverElfin
4. Regulatory, market, and public‑perception pressures
The conversation touches on how Tesla’s approach may hurt the broader autonomous‑driving industry and how regulators may or may not intervene.
“There is no political will to tackle new laws… no institution in the US that is going to look at this for what it is – an unsafe system not ready for the road.” – parl_match
“The average consumer isn’t going to make a distinction between Tesla vs. Waymo… they will assume all robotic driving is crash‑prone.” – lateforwork
These four themes capture the bulk of the discussion’s concerns and arguments.