The discussion revolves around effective leadership styles, often in contrast to the concept of "servant leadership" as presented in an external article, leading to three main themes:
1. Misinterpretation and Evasion of Managerial Responsibility
A strong current in the discussion is the belief that some modern leadership advice (like "bring me solutions, not problems") is being misused to justify managerial abdication rather than true empowerment. Many felt the original article's premise described an absent manager rather than effective leadership.
- Supporting Quote: Regarding the "bring me solutions, not problems" clichΓ©, one user noted it can be a form of abdication, stating, "I've noticed a number of pieces lately that seem to suggest that managers and leaders doing nothing is actually good." ("kagrenac")
- Supporting Quote: Critiquing the idea of aiming for redundancy, someone stated, "What he describes is not really servant leadership. Servant leadership is more or less just the concept that the leader's job is to make sure the team are working to their full capacity." ("reactordev")
2. The Value and Tone of "Coaching" Over Direct Problem Solving
There is significant frustration with leadership styles, often associated with coaching methodologies, that force individuals to solve problems they explicitly brought to management for resolution, especially when management authority is required.
- Supporting Quote: A user recounting a negative experience with a manager operating under such a methodology exclaimed, "They nearly drove me insane with this circular cycle. It was the only job I ever walked out on." ("citizenpaul")
- Supporting Quote: Another user described the frustration of needing direct help versus being subjected to recursive questioning: "Idiot, if I knew that, I wouldn't be asking!" ("psunavy03")
3. The Necessity of Leadership as a "Blocker Remover" or "Shield"
Many participants, particularly those in technical roles, expressed a vital need for managers to actively remove obstacles, provide organizational shielding ("shit umbrella"), and actively solve problems that ICs lack the authority or context to handle, contrasting this with notions of management as purely passive guidance.
- Supporting Quote: Users appreciated managers who actively intervened to clear impediments: "His whole management style can be summed up as 'Why is it blocked? Ok, leave it to me.'" ("Forgeties79")
- Supporting Quote: The need for managerial support that goes beyond just listening was clear: "I don't think we need to go back to the old ideas of The Manager who is Above It All and Doesn't Get Their Hands Dirty. At least at middle levels." ("CodeMage")