1. Shorts are an addictive, intrusive UI that many users hate
“I hate it so much that I couldn’t even see the content hiding behind it” – 7734128
“I prefer to hide them entirely… I use YouTube Tweaks” – StrangeSound
2. The only way to tame YouTube is with extensions, filters, or custom scripts
“I use Brave to watch YouTube… blocking shorts is one of them” – jbjbjbjb
“Unhook lets you independently toggle visibility of the home feed, the rec sidebar, end‑screen recs, comments, shorts, and the unrelated BS they ad to search results” – Blocktube/Unhook discussion
3. YouTube’s recommendation engine feels like a dark‑pattern, user‑hostile system
“YouTube is a content delivery platform that has social media features… they want to choose what you see because it lets them keep you on the platform longer” – mostlysimilar
“They’re shoving a bajillion AI tools down creator’s throats and even editing videos after they’ve been uploaded” – doctor_blood
4. Paying for YouTube (Premium, ad‑free, etc.) does not solve the problem and many question the value
“I pay for YouTube, but not being able to disable shorts made me use ReVanced” – jbaiter
“I’m paying over $40 a month for YouTube but it doesn’t allow me to choose almost anything of what I see” – phero_cnstrcts
“I don’t want to pay for goods and services” – raw_anon_1111 (in the context of YouTube)
These four themes capture the bulk of the discussion: the frustration with Shorts, the reliance on tech work‑arounds, the perception of YouTube’s algorithm as manipulative, and the debate over whether a paid subscription actually improves the experience.