5 Most Prevalent Themes in the Tangled Discussion
1. Tangled as a GitHub Alternative Built on ATProto
"Tangled is built entirely in the open: https://tangled.org/tangled.org/core, and our primary goal is to be 'permanent software'—i.e. be fully reproducible and entirely self-hostable at minimal cost." - icy
"The cool thing is you can just host your own knot then. Host repos of whatever size you want." - icy
2. Skepticism About VC Funding and Potential "Enshittification"
"The problem with VC-founded projects is that there's some kind of rug-pull, ads, privacy violation (e.g. using repos to train AI) or 'feature enhancing' subscription likely coming." - code-blooded
"VC money is absolutely not a means to an end, what is signals is that the company doesn't care about community and only cares about profit." - shimman
"VC funding is a liability not a strength." - code-blooded
3. Complexity and Learning Curve of Jujutsu and Tangled
"I used JJ for a bit, but I personally really, really dislike the anonymous branch approach it forces you into. Branches are just useful conceptually, at least to me." - horsawlarway
"Simple operations need generated ids, commands require complicated input (ex - the entire revset thing), I have to be constantly thinking about the tool and its structure. It feels really oversold to me." - horsawlarway
"jj literally has a much smaller cognitive overhead than git does." - BeetleB
4. Debate About Value of Federation for Git Forges
"Discoverability. Without federation, people are pretty much dependant on GitHub to make sure their software gets out there." - malicka
"A federation of forges makes no sense if everything gets centralized again in the hands of the people operating Tangled (sure, someone else could run an alternative AppView, but then if you are only on the alternative you are invisible to anyone who is only on Tangled)." - fiatjaf
"The difficulty is ancillary stuff like issue trackers, wikis and MRs, but using a federated protocol for that seems ill-advised given the much weaker safeguards against spam." - noirscape
5. Concerns About AT Protocol and Bluesky Ecosystem
"I'm afraid that atproto will suffer from Bluesky's irrelevance. Not sure if that's a valid fear." - alper
"ATProto simply ignores the need for decentralizing incentives on a human/community level. What we get is a sort of a 'top-down' federation rather than a grass-roots one." - class4behavior
"Mastodon and email are the closest I've felt to a distributed system that works, but for oss stuff ... I think we're getting closer, but it's still a very hard problem to solve." - necrotic_comp